Monday, September 28, 2020

[PANN] Doesn't TREASURE Yoshi look like a male lead actor of a Japanese movie? I was so surprised after I saw this

 His visual is crazy.. He totally looks like a male lead of a movie,, even the mole in his chin.. ㅋㅋ 

Personally, I think this gif is one of the top 3 legendary gifs out there






Below is just handsome Yoshinori



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[+12, -0] Can they film Yoshi's dace for their ending ㅡㅡ 

[+8, -0] His daily fashion is so good 



[+8, -0] He was studying for his Korean test with this face.... I love you Yoshi


[+7, -0]  Please style his hair with 5:5 part everyday fck 


[+5, -0] My bias!! Our Yoshi is finally getting known for his visualsㅜㅜ He looks like a cat-type person,, but his way of speaking and actions is just full of kindness. However, he freaking cool when he's in his professional mode. Our Yoshi is a fairy so please make him the ending fairy~~~!!!



[+5, -0] I hope YG will push Yoshi more. He's so handsome



[+5, -0] Please film our Kim Bangjeon for the ending 


[+4, -0] To be honest, he is the total con character among them. He's handsome, kind, tall, has pale skin and good fashion. Rapper Yoshi is so freaking good and he even passed the Korean GED exam ㅋㅋㅋㅋ 


[+4, -0] Kind Yoshi


[+3, -0] Yoshi's personality is so cute ㅠㅜ 

[PANN] Hey, how come Park Jeongwoo got a great physique?



I'm still contemplating whether to fangirl over them or not, but someone made a post saying they fell for TREASURE through this photo and I was surprised... Can a 1st year high schooler be like this?


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[+38, -0] Why are the reactions like this.. his physique is indeed great though ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ OP, don't be hurt. PANN is just normally like this


[+32, -0] This was a year ago? He was just a total baby during this time but now, his older brother vibe is already so strong. However, he is still a baby in our eyes ㅠㅠ Jeongwoo who silently cried because he made a mistake, that was so unnoticeable because he did so well. A baby who is always hardworking  



[+30, -0] That kid is so tall. His physique is amazing


[+25, -0] His part of the maknae line, but he'll probably become the tallest member soon ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ He is still growing



[+16, -0] Park Jeongwoo's shoulder is 2m wide



[+14, -0] And he's still 17 years old,, 



[+13, -0] When I saw Jeongwoo's brother in YGTB, I already know that his looks will transform and he totally grew up so well. His visual is not the handsome type but it's so fcking charming. His eyes are very pretty



[+12, -0] Why is no one in the comments talking about his physique... I am surprised right now


[+10, -0] The reason why the fans make fun of Jeongwoo's physique is because, not too long ago, he was just like an elementary kid ㅋㅋ He has grown up so fast in just a span of months ㅠㅠ 


[+9, -0] Fck It's a fact that Park Jeongwoo's physique and shoulder's width is amazing for a 1st year high schooler though;; 


[+8, -0] I like Park Jeongwoo so much. From his face to his voice, everything is my style



T/N: HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO OUR #1 TENSION GUY!!


LISTEN TO JAEHYUK AND DON'T BE DISCOURAGED EVEN IF YOU MAKE A MISTAKE BECAUSE YOU! ARE! PARK JEONGWOO!

Sunday, September 27, 2020

[DCGall] 20200925 TREASURE video call fansign

 I won through the scratch event so I hope you won't ask me how many albums I bought!


Also, before I get right into it, there's something I realized after the fansign

First, TREASURE members are so handsome.

Second, 1 minute is faster than I thought

I'll tell you why below ㅋㅋㅋ 

Please excuse my bad writing skills 


First, 30 minutes? before the fansign, Ktown added my I.D as a friend and told me the things to remember, something like that but it's not important so pass

Mine started at 4:15pm? (Fansign started at 4pm)

The sequence was Junkyu > Ruto > Hyunsuk > Yoshi > Jeongwoo > Mashiho > Doyoung > Yedam > Sahi > Jaehyuk > Jihoon > Junghwan 

I recorded through my phone and it has no audio so the conversation might not be accurate but I'll try my best to share what I remember!

1. Junkyu


Kyu: Hello~

Me: Hello~

Me: (Shivering 'cause I was so nervous) < Watching the video again, I looked like a freaking weirdo. I swear, don't shiver even if you're so nervous

Kyu: Why are you so nervous. It's okay ㅋㅋ 

Me: It's my first fansign...

Kyu: It's okay ㅋㅋ 

Me: There's something I wanted to ask you

Kyu: Yeah

Me: You played a game with Haruto in TMI and I wonder what game do you enjoy playing these days

Kyu: I enjoy playing minecraft these days (He acted as if he's making a home) <--- He was so cute at this part

Me: Ah~ Minecraft (I tried asking him something else)

Kyu: They said time is up ㅠㅠ Bye~

Me: ? Bye~


I had no idea 1 minute was this fast. I prepared lots of question like what's better between being roommates with Ruto or having a room by himself and I was going to tell him that I enjoyed his dance in idol radio, but I forgot everything the moment I saw his face. You guys should practice speaking fast cause 1 minute goes by so fast



2. Ruto

He was so handsome that my heart almost stopped


Ru: Hello~

Me: Hi! I'm also 17 years old

Ru: Really??!! (He was so surprised that I wonder if I look that old)

Me: You can speak informally!

Ru: Okay~ 

Me: ㅋㅋㅋㅋ (I was a total mess) Ah you're so handsome ㅠㅠㅠ

Ru: ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ (Shy) Thanks

Me: I want to ask you how your Korean improved that fast~

Ru: Ah.. The hyungs helped me a lot and I also watched lots of movies and read books too

Me: Which hyung helped you the most?

Ru: Jihoon hyung! They said time is up Bye ㅠㅠ 

Me: Bye~


3. Hyunsuk


Hyun: (He clapped right after the call was connected) <-- I was so surprised + it was so funny that I got embarassed ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ

Me: ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 

Hyun: Congratulations. Let's clap!!!!!


They all clapped in this part ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ fck

I think the staffs are there too? Because the clap was so loud 


Me: Ah Thank you... (shy)

Hyun: Why. Don't be nervous ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 


The conversation went on like this and


Me: I really like hyung's rap part in 'I LOVE YOU'. Can you rap it for me?

Hyun: Okay


He did the rap but he turned the camera to Jeongwoo's side ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 

Jeongwoo peeped at me


Me: Thank you so much.. really

Hyun: @#@#@#@#@#@

Me: @#@#@#@#@#@

Hyun: They said the time is up. Bye ㅠㅠ 

Me: Bye ㅠㅠㅠ 


I wanted to tell him that he's the best leader but it's sad that I wasn't able to. No matter how much I tried to memorize the questions, I forgot it the moment I look at his face


4. Yoshi


Yo: Hello~

Me: Hello~

Me: Yoshi hyung, I want to ask you something. You took the GED right~

Yo: Yeah ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ (laughs)

Me: My midterms is coming and I wonder if Yoshi hyung can tell me tips to focus in studying?

Yo: For me~ if I do something continuously, I'll get bored so I exercise or do something else when I feel that way~

MeL Ah~ Thank you!

Yo: Fighting! You can do it! Bye~

Me: Bye~


5: Jeongwoo


Jeong: Hello~

Me: Hi! I'm also 17 years old, Jeongwoo!

Jeong: Really?

Me: Yup! You can speak informally

Jeong: (He misheard it) You're asking if it's okay to speak informally?

Me: I said you can speak informally!

Jeong: Ah~ Okay!

Me: Jeongwoo! Days before, you sang with Jihoon hyung and Yedam hyung in a radio right~

Jeong: Radio? Ah~

Me: You sang really well there so I wanted to compliment you!

Jeong: Thank you ㅎㅎㅎㅎㅎ 


Jeongwoo and I turned shy at this part


Jeong: It feels awkward meeting someone in my age

Me: ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ (I told him he's like a friend)

Jeong: @#@#@#@#@#@

Me: @#@#@#@#@#@

Jeong: They said time is up Bye~

Me: Bye~


6: Mashiho


Ma: Hello~

Me: Hello~ I think Mashiho hyung suits 'I LOVE YOU' a lot~

Ma: Thank you~ (He bowed)

Me: I want to ask you something. What exercise do you enjoy these days?

Ma: Bicep building! !@#@# I do cardio exercise these days~

Me: @@@#@#@

Ma: #@$#$#$

Me: Can you do Kijoring for me ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ ?

Ma: Kijoring~ (He put his hands together and squinted his eyes in this part, it was so cute ㅋㅋㅋㅋ)

Me: Thank you so much ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 

Ma:Byebye~

Me: Bye~


7. Doyoung


Do: Hello~

Me: Hello~ There's something I'm really curious of. Why did you only have 8 members for the beach group dance scene in I LOVE YOU?

Do: Ah~ There's no special reason for that (He was saying something else but I couldn't hear it well. Seeing him emphasize that there's no special reason for it, it must've been really just a random thing)

Me: Ah~ Thanks for letting me know. You're good at performing ㅠㅠ 

Do: Thank you ㅎㅎㅎㅎㅎ Bye~ See you again~

Me: Bye~


8. Yedam


Ye: Hello~

Me: Hello~ Few days ago, you sang in a radio right~

Ye: Huh? Right!

Me: Can you sing it for me?

Ye: (Singing) (He was so sweet)

Ye: I feel shy ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 

Me: Thank you ㅎㅎㅎㅎㅎㅎ I've been keeping an eye on you since KPOP Star ㅠㅠㅠ

Ye: Wow.. Thank you so much~ High 5!

Me: (I put my hand on the camera)

Ye: ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ  

Me: ###$#$@#@#

Ye: Thank you so much~ (He did peace sigh and waved it)

Me: (I also did peace sigh)

Ye: (Did peace sign again and waved it) Bye~

Me: Bye~


9. Asahi


Sahi: Hello~

Me: Hello~ Sahi hyung, you did pipo painting with Junkyu hyung and Yoshi hyung right~

Sahi: Huh??? (He didn't get it)

Me: Pipo painting!

Sahi: Ah~ Pipo painting~

Me: Can you give me a tip to do well in pipo painting?

Sahi: Just fill the blanks well~ (He acted as if he was painting)!

Me: Thank you.. You're so handsome that I can't look into your eyesㅠㅠㅠ 

Sahi: Thank you (Bow) Bye~

Me: Bye~


Jaehyuk was peeking during this part and when was so cute, my heart almost stopped beating ㅋㅋㅋㅋ 


10. Jaehyuk


Hyuk: Hello~

Me: Hello, hyung you're my bias ㅠㅠ 

Hyuk: Aigoo~ Thank you (claps)

Me: I can see how you're doing your best on stage ㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠ  And you're so handsome.,,.

Hyuk: Thank you! I'll try harder next time!

Me: #@$@@#@#

Hyuk: @#$@##@@#


Maybe it's because he's my bias so my words just can't come out properly ㅠㅠ 

I just probably went 'Ah~ Oh my ㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠ'


Me: What's you favorite song among all TREASURE songs?

Hyuk: (I was being transferred to another member at this point so he probably wasn't able to hear it well) Ah they said the time is up! Sorry ㅠㅠ 

Me: It's okay, Bye~


11. Jihoon


Hoon: Hello~

Me: Hello! Hyung, I was listening to the radio on my way home from cram school at dawn~

Hoon: Yes

Me: And as soon as 12am came, I heard 'Hello! I'm TREASURE Jihoon!' ㅋㅋㅋ 

Hoon: Ah ㅋㅋㅋㅋ Okay

Me: I was in a good mood that day because my day started with TREASURE ㅋㅋㅋ 

Hoon: ㅋㅋㅋ Is that so? but your cram school finished so late?

Me: Yes, 12am..

Hoon: You've work hard..

Me: ㅠㅠㅠ Do you ride skateboards often these days?

Hoon: No, because of corona.. but I do ride it often before that! Do you like skateboards?

Me: No. Actually, I haven't tried skateboarding in my life

Hoon: ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 

Me: ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 

Hoon: (He called my name here and said something but I can't remember what it was ㅠㅠ) Bye!

Me: Bye~


Also, I almost ended the call without knowing I still have Junghwan left;;

Good thing, I realized it 


12: Junghwan:


Hwan: Hello~

Me: Hi~


Ha... I was so determined to tell Junghwan to grow his hair but I forgot about it the moment I saw his face


Me: Wow.. Ah.. Really ㅠㅠ Umm.. Your smile is so cute ㅠㅠ (I just started saying random things)

Hwan: Ah ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ Thank you! (He smiled so big)

Me: Junghwan, you ate kal-guksu with your parents in T-map right~

Hwan: Right

Me: I'm curious if you're also enjoying kal-guksu these days and if you've taken a liking on it now

Hwan: Umm.. These days (I don't remember but I think he said that he couldn't eat it because of their schedule)! Time is up ㅠㅠ Bye~

Me: Bye~


I was so sure I was going to ask them the questions you recommended me but my mind went blank the moment I saw their faces. There are so many questions I wasn't able to ask them ㅠㅠ 

I also don't remember a lot from our conversation ㅋㅋㅋㅋ I was hoping to give you some fun story but Sorry ㅠㅠ 

Also, I was so nervous ㅠㅠㅠ Anyway, I'm not sure if there will be a second chance but,,, I swear that I won't be nervous the next time I'll do video call fansign ㅋㅋㅋㅋ 

I was nervous because it's my first fansign and just incase the members get flustered after seeing a male fan ㅋㅋㅋㅋ but our TREASURE were all very accepting and they told me not to be nervous. I'm thankful for that ㅋㅋㅋ All of them are so kind,, It's a video call but they were so handsome.. I swear all of you better not drag TREASURE for their looks

Anyway, I'll end my story here. There's nothing special about it but I hope you'll enjoy reading it ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 


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- ㅋㅋㅋ I'm envious. Thanks for your story


- The kids probably felt good after seeing a male fan. Thank you sharing your story


- I'm so envious


- Thanks for this. I'm so fcking envious ㅠㅠ 


- Wow, thank you for the detailed story ㅜ 


- Thank you for this


- It must've been funㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ Please apply for the next fansign too. This is so fun to read


- Wow so you're a male fan ㅋㅋㅋㅋ Thanks for this


- Wow thank you for this


- Hul. I'm envious


- Wow a male fan ㅋㅋㅋㅋ I'm so envious

[DCGall] I wasn't going to compare ours with other companies' idols but I can't help it



Looking at the content of other companies' rookie idols and ours, the difference is so visible 

One of those groups upload up to 40 tweets a day in their members' tweet account while ours only uploads 2,3 a day, sometimes 5,6

They had 5 or more v-live this week, as well as 5 new YouTube videos. Their outfits for every schedules are also self-made to match each other and not all over the place. If you won't do this then you will not get new fans

But with us, even during their promotions, we don't get lots of contents. Other companies would upload almost 10 contents but we only have 2,3 ㅋㅋ Their own contents almost stopped after they debuted and they don't even give them proper schedules 

Even their hair and makeup, it's so bad that I question if it's done by an anti. Music shows too. Other groups attend 4,5 per week, but we only attend 2 ㅋㅋㅋㅋ 

Obviously, they won't get new local fans; What's the point of having lots of international fans if they have no local fans. They'll be ridiculed everyday. It will stress their existing fans and that's how they will stop fangirling. It's a cycle.


(I gave you a proof that I'm a fan so stop it)


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- I don't even know where to start about this. They have 12 members and what are we going to do if you'll give them a song that only has a beat for the chorus, twice, when it could have been an additional part for one member.. Please think about their song more. TREASURE's chorus has no lyrics and I think that it'll be better for them to have a song with more lyrics than just beat. If you'll use the company producer then at least accept a good song, but it's not even good so what are you doing? Also, please stop that vibe at the ending of their songs. It screams YG and it's weird, but they're the only one who don't get it.. For BOY and I LOVE YOU, their chorus has no lyrics and both ending has that 'let's play' vibe. Are you joking with us? Please think about them more


- I'm trying my best to held it in until chapter 3 but if they're going to continue like this, all the fans they have left will leave once they rest from promotions and they will only have the company fans


- Please listen to the fans. If you're going to continue to be like this, fans will get tired and eventually leave


- If you have no idea how to raise TREASURE then employ someone who has an experience in raising a big member group or at least learn from other companies. Do you think it will end after throwing few videos as bargain? Others give out lots of content and film their choreography videos in various ways. It feels like shit because ours feels like just an act of kindness. You're not even doing anything right but you keep on selling albums to the fans. I'm in disbelief looking at all the video call fansign schedules... Fans are not stupid..


- I'm so stressed ㅜ 


- I hope they will know that we're like this because we genuinely want TREASURE to do well


- I held it in lots of times because I love video call fansigns but YG, if you will make lots of albums and merchandises then don't you think it's just right to make their fandom grow? You're chasing away the existing fans and I have no idea why you're not doing your job. Please listen to the fans and do your work. Have you forgotten how their 2 boy group seniors lost their fans because of this? Please don't do the same thing with TREASURE. If you want to get more fans and establish their core fandom, make more contents


- Change that producer R.tee who makes cheap beats. It doesn't suit them


- If they will really continue to be like this, the handful local fans will all leave


- I'm so stressed. I want to curse. Please get it all together. YG people. The kids are too precious.




[PANN] I'm contemplating whether I should fangirl over TREASURE or not..

 + Huh... Why is this trending..? Anyway, thank you for the photos/gifs!


It's been 2 years since I stopped fangirling because I felt that it's only a waste of time and money, but I'm so into TREASURE these days ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 

Especially Yoon Jaehyuk ㅋㅋㅋㅋ The other members are also great but I like Yoon Jaehyuk so much...


Please give me photos/gifs. I only have these two 



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[+39, -1] Become a fan


                        - Sigh... Should I just throw away my life

                        - Yup. I already have no life because of Yoon Jaehyuk 


[+28, -1] You'll see this if you'll watch T-map


                        - I hate myself for replaying this part in T-map.. Sorry Jaehyuk


[+27, -1] Jaehyuk's proportion gif that we can't leave unmentioned 



[+19, -1] Seems like OP is already a fan. Welcome ㅋㅋ 



[+13, -1] Jaehyuk's smile is heart fluttering...



[+13, -1] Banana milk challenge photo ㅋㅋ 



[+12, -1] Jaehyuk's nickname is 'Yoon Dajeong' 

T/N: Dajeong = Sweet



[+11, -1] I'm going crazy because of Yoon Daejeong



[+11, -2] You'll also get to know this boy if you'll fangirl over Jaehyuk ㅋㅋ Asahi

                        - Sseudamz here. Jeongwoo too^^


T/N: Sseudam = Patting head 


[+10, -1] Yoon Jaehyuk is very charming. I hope a lot of people will know about itㅜ



Saturday, September 26, 2020

[THEQOO] When Jihoon left YG for a moment during pre-debut

 I saw in twitter that he went to a very small company which doesn't even have dorms for trainees

So they went to the CEO's house and slept there..

Is it real or just a a lie?

I really want to bow in gratefulness for Jihoon's debut 

2016. They couldn't stay at the dorm since they're still not trainees officially. The kids who stayed, like that, at my house temporarily... are now debuting in their own respective teams. #5Boys

(T/N: Photo not included in the original post)


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- I also saw that. I wonder if it's real


- It's real. The CEO actually uploaded that photo of him sleeping in his living room during his trainee days, to congratulate Jihoon for his debut

                - Oh my ㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠ Cries ㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠ I once saw a clip of him saying that it'll be hard for him to debut if he won't make it this time because of his age and my heart broke. I couldn't watch that again


- I think he went to a company founded by an old YG staff? It's not a company which specialize in trainees so they don't have a dorm


- That person in charge? He probably uploaded it on instagram? I saw several people sleeping in the living room, is it real?


- It's like a drama... Jihoon, thank you for debuting


- Oh my ㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠ 


- As expected, I can't watch YGTBㅜㅜ 


- Jihoon 😭😭😭


- Jihoon, thank you for debuting ㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠ


- Oh my ㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠ


- That's right! I'm not sure if that person uploaded it on their actual debut day or when their debut date was released, but he uploaded it in Instagram with the caption! 

[DCGall] YG, please change this part in their choreography


Jeongwoo is still growing and you can see in the fancam that the impact goes to his head every time Mashiho comes running from the back... Let's throw away the free mindedness and the thought "It should be okay since they practiced a lot" Just change it. Which boy group even does circus like choreography like that these days f ck

Aside from Jeongwoo, Jihoon and Jaehyuk are in danger too. Just look at their neck shaking....


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- For real. I don't think they considered the narrow distance between the kids too


- Seeing this gif, it's so bad


- Right. It's not even cool.. They're not just stepping on them lightly but they run and step on them like pedals, why would you do that


- Now that you have shown it once, let's stop it please....


- Who will be responsible if an accident occurs? Change it quickly


- I got shocked after seeing this


- For real, it's a very dangerous choreography. A misstep could cause a huge accident. Change it quickly!!


- Please stop making them do circus move


- They won't be able to dance if they'll get waist injury so change it


- For real


- It's not cool and it's dangerous. I can't watch that part. It makes me uncomfortable


- I was watching this live and I got shocked;; I'm worried not only for the kids being stepped on, but also for the kids standing on top of them just incase they will slip.. 


- Hul.. Too much

[PANN] What's with TREASURE's live ㅋㅋ


https://youtu.be/VK6jd4bd4pg
Why is Park Jeongwoo's vocal tone so good. It's so good that I can't describe it in words
Also, Park Jihoon what the... was he always this good at singing...
They suit this kind of song




+ Everyone, I saw something more amazing. If you want to get lost to their vocal tones, watch this
Bang Yedam is shining..
https://youtu.be/b20kBzImuGI




[+22, -1] Isn't Park Jeongwoo's vocal tone so good.. Korea's Justin Bieber 

[+20, -1] Park Jihoon is a main dancer but he's so good at singing ㅠㅠ 

[+8, -0] Jihoonㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠ



[+8, -0] Jeongwoo, I already know how talented you are since YGTB so, I watched it looking forward to him doing well as expected, but Jihoon~ Up until the finale, he was in the dance team but he was able to show his singing skills in T-map when they sang 'I don't love you' together. They purified everyone's ears yesterday ㅋㅋ Honey ParkPark didn't purify my ears, they melted it ㅜㅜ 

[+7, -0] Jeongwoo's vocal tone is so good.  His voice was made for pop songs

[+7, -0] Our ParkParkDiRaRa ㅜㅠㅜㅠㅜㅠ I love you

[+6, -0] I became a TREASURE fan through Park Jihoon

[+5, -0] Those two started singing not to long ago but they're already in that level. I'm looking forward for their futures

[+4, -0] Fyi, Jeongwoo was born in 2004. He passed YG's audition just 3 days after he started attending a vocal academy. He's a fcking genius..^^ I'm excited for his future. He seem to be very passionate when it comes to singing

[+4, -0] ParkParkz ㅠㅠ 

[+2, -0] I was actually keeping an eye on them during YGTB but, I kind of lost interest because of the lack of updates about them after the show. However, I finished watching all T-map episodes this week ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ I'm a YG fan but since they're the first actual? idols from the company, I thought I will not fall for them but no.. Park Jihoon was such a joker in T-map and his personality was so charming... after watching that performance, I totally fell for him. As for Yoon Jaehyuk, I have been supporting him since YGTBㅠㅜㅜㅜㅜ

[+1, -0] The more you get to know Park Jihoon, the more you discover his charms 

[PANN] Current situation at TREASURE's concert

  They're all cryingㅠ  After their survival show, they went through member reformation, almost got their debut cancelled, but made it af...